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Watched The Taking Deborah Logan tonight... holy crap that was freaky (9/10).
Full disclosure - I didn't see TCM until my late 20s and have never seen it at the theater. But I was aware of it from an early age, much like The Exorcist it was already legendary. When I finally did see it, I found it grimy, raw and sickening, just as intended. Yet it falls short of elite status for me, more the film equivalent of required reading. In the binary, it's definitely a thumbs up but nowhere near my top 50. Perhaps my opinion would be different if I had seen it before seeing Michael Myers, Freddy Kruger and other descendents but I'll never know. It does certainly stand out from the pack thoughI feel like this could be a good discussion about TCM. It would be top 5-10 all time for me.
I guess I have a different reaction now. I watch TCM and the reaction is just how it was intended. Raw, grimy - I feel like I need a shower. It's one of the most effective and visceral movies I've seen. Rewatching Freddy mostly makes me roll my eyes at the f/x and cheesiness of the 80s. Do I WANT to watch it more than some others we might name? Hell no, but to me that's part of the reason it gets an elevated status from me.Full disclosure - I didn't see TCM until my late 20s and have never seen it at the theater. But I was aware of it from an early age, much like The Exorcist it was already legendary. When I finally did see it, I found it grimy, raw and sickening, just as intended. Yet it falls short of elite status for me, more the film equivalent of required reading. In the binary, it's definitely a thumbs up but nowhere near my top 50. Perhaps my opinion would be different if I had seen it before seeing Michael Myers, Freddy Kruger and other descendents but I'll never know. It does certainly stand out from the pack thoughI feel like this could be a good discussion about TCM. It would be top 5-10 all time for me.
I was probably in high school or maybe middle school when I saw TCM for the first time. It was considered over-the-top and almost scandalous back then, and you can see why. But this film has a lot going for it. Aside from just being a really well-made film on what must have been no budget (John Larroquette was allegedly paid in weed for his narration) it has some iconic shots that absolutely everyone knows even if you've never seen the movie. And its so much more original than all the slasher movies that tried to capitalize on Halloween. Everyone remembers Leatherface of course, but the whole family was disturbing and quirky.Full disclosure - I didn't see TCM until my late 20s and have never seen it at the theater. But I was aware of it from an early age, much like The Exorcist it was already legendary. When I finally did see it, I found it grimy, raw and sickening, just as intended. Yet it falls short of elite status for me, more the film equivalent of required reading. In the binary, it's definitely a thumbs up but nowhere near my top 50. Perhaps my opinion would be different if I had seen it before seeing Michael Myers, Freddy Kruger and other descendents but I'll never know. It does certainly stand out from the pack thoughI feel like this could be a good discussion about TCM. It would be top 5-10 all time for me.
I can't believe I had never even heard of that movie. What a great rec. I loved it. There's almost nothing like it, it's just so weird.Messiah of Evil! I was wondering if you got to that, and if it was as interesting for others as it was to me.
I feel like this could be a good discussion about TCM. It would be top 5-10 all time for me.
The Birds is a brilliant horror movie.Odd mix the last few nights. Found footage double feature of The Sacrament/As Above, So Below. Then a 60s of The Birds/Brides of Dracula. Last night was Grave Encounters/Rosemary's Baby. On my day off I mixed in Murders in the Rue Morgue quick as I ate lunch.
The 60s won out here. I had a blast with The Birds and I think it gets a bad rap. I still think the idea and lack of explanation to the attacks is Hella creepy and Tippy is great. Rosemary is still great on rewatch. Brides was campy cheese, but it hit the spot.
I am reading a good book titled Shock Value about the 70s horror, but they talked a bit about late 60s ficks at the start, and thought I would watch some from the decade. Doing a little research and adding more titles to the 70s research pile @Ilov80s
Also two non-horror found footage movies: Cloverfield and Chronicle.No, and I could be exaggerating. I was thinking of those 2, Host, and #Alive. Just a trend I noticed specifically from newer ones coming out in the last few years.Found Footage movies - I saw a lot of inventiveness from this subgenre over the month and a lot of my favorite watches were from here. However, I don't think I like this trend of movies like Dashcam and Deadstream where we have 1 lead and the shtick of also seeing the comments on the screen. I get why it's going that direction, but I'm too old for that and hope it doesn't tilt too much in that direction.
Do you have a full list of these?
You're not exaggerating. It's almost as if found footage has exhausted the amount of fresh new ideas there are out there.
As for a list, I would consider these great, essential found footage
The Blair Witch Project
As Above, So Below
The Taking of Deborah Logan
REC
Lake Mungo
Grave Encounters
The Sacrament
The Borderlands
V/H/S 1 and 2
Paranormal Activity
Creep
Also noteworthy:
Noroi
The Poughkeepsie Tapes
Hell House LLC
The Atticus Institute
The Bay
The Den
Devil's Pass
Be My Cat: A Film for Anne
Trollhunter
The Last Exorcism
There's the really weird one of #Alive and Alone, two movies made concurrently from the same script from what I can tell. #Alive is Korean, Alone is American.We have a pretty bad track record of remaking foreign horror movies.
Quarantine - Rec
Martyrs
Let the Right One In - Let Me In
The Wicker Man
Goodnight Mommy
Pulse
The only one I can think of that is probably as good as the foreign original is The Ring and even that's debatable.
Maybe have a criterion of something like "less than X ratings on IMDB" so we get new movies rather than the same list we've been seeing our whole lives.I was going to present options to the group soon while we are in horror mode for opinions on categories and if they should stay or go. I think we could get a good idea on the categories now. What I thought would be wise for next year is repost the categories at the start of Sept. That way people could get an idea of what they might want to watch for those as they look what is on streaming and plan for things. I thought that month could be people throwing around ideas for the categories and where it is streaming, and less debating what the categories are. I hope that makes sense.Found Footage movies - I saw a lot of inventiveness from this subgenre over the month and a lot of my favorite watches were from here. However, I don't think I like this trend of movies like Dashcam and Deadstream where we have 1 lead and the shtick of also seeing the comments on the screen. I get why it's going that direction, but I'm too old for that and hope it doesn't tilt too much in that direction.
I think found footage peaked about 5-10 years ago. I'm a huge fan of the subgenre, but there really are a lot of stinkers out there. It can be hard to find the good stuff and there hasn't been anything worthy of a list in a few years IMO.
Also, I think for next year, we should spend Aug-Sept coming up with a definitive 31 movie for 31 days list, kind of how we did the top 100 70s/80s/90s threads, but with more people. Then the list would be ready for the thread to watch and discuss during October. Is that what you already suggested? I cant remember.
Holy crap!!! It’s just a great story. Well acted and a time capsule of the late 1960’s.I've never seen Rosemary's Baby. I need to track that down sometime.
Awesome film. So much suspense.Holy crap!!! It’s just a great story. Well acted and a time capsule of the late 1960’s.I've never seen Rosemary's Baby. I need to track that down sometime.
Polanski directed.
Fall of the House of Usher (series)- 7.5At the End of Eight 3/10My updated list, now with rankings
Texas Chainsaw (22) 4/10
Horror of Dracula 6/10
REC 10/10
REC 2 7/10
Hell House llc. 10/10
Evil Dead (13). 10/10
The Boy 6/10
The Boogeyman. 7/10
Tales of Halloween. 6.5/10
Haunted Mansion (23). 5/10
Megan 5.5/10
Malevolent. 6/10
Candyman (21). 6/10
The Possession of Hannah Grace 6.5/10
You're Killing Me 3/10
Haunt 9/10
Totally Killer. 6/10
Interesting premise but apparently the budget for this movie was only 5k and it shows.
Wow. It's a classic. Slow burn but definitely a Top 10 horror film for me.I've never seen Rosemary's Baby. I need to track that down sometime.
Yeah the kids today would call it boring as the horror is in the background for much of it but it's such a well made movie and there's very interesting readings one could make of it.Wow. It's a classic. Slow burn but definitely a Top 10 horror film for me.I've never seen Rosemary's Baby. I need to track that down sometime.
Sticking strictly Hollywood films, these ones stand out as the best ones for a general audienceFor the record, I know "Rosemary's Baby" represents in a serious hole in my horror viewing. It's kind of like never having seen The Exorcist. It was on one my streaming service not that long ago but I slept on it.
Stepping outside of horror for a moment, I feel like I'm decently familiar with 1970s films, but my knowledge drops off really fast when you roll it back into the 1960s. I don't know quite why that is. Most of the 70s movies that I know extremely well were made when I was a toddler, so it's not as if I grew up with any of these -- that would be 80s movies. I know a handful of 60s films of course, but there are many more that are on my "Yeah I should sit down and watch that sometime" list.
The Exorcist is still #1 for me. Terrifying and way ahead of its time.For the record, I know "Rosemary's Baby" represents in a serious hole in my horror viewing. It's kind of like never having seen The Exorcist. It was on one my streaming service not that long ago but I slept on it.
Stepping outside of horror for a moment, I feel like I'm decently familiar with 1970s films, but my knowledge drops off really fast when you roll it back into the 1960s. I don't know quite why that is. Most of the 70s movies that I know extremely well were made when I was a toddler, so it's not as if I grew up with any of these -- that would be 80s movies. I know a handful of 60s films of course, but there are many more that are on my "Yeah I should sit down and watch that sometime" list.
Big fan of this movie. I feel like this one hits a very specific spot where it works great as a straight-up horror movie, but it's got lots of low-key humor and self-awareness without crossing over into comedy or postmodernism. If it were made today, it would be like Scream or Cabin in the Woods, but that genre didn't exist in 1981.25th - An American Werewolf in London (on AMC). Another rewatch, albeit one I hadn't seen in a LONG time. I remembered it gorier than what I saw, but remember this was on AMC so it was edited. The werewolf morphing scenes hold up well and this may have been the first one I saw from the "monster's" point of view. Watching it now, I can see touches indicating the direction of John Landis. I'm glad I got to see it again as there was a lot I had forgotten about, but I would probably have greater appreciation for it with unedited content on a different platform. Grade B
Updated with a few additional, all recommendations from this forum:Late to posting, but have been keeping up. Grouped by grade:
Ready or Not: Tons of fun, really enjoyed it, A-
Green Room: Not quite horror, but a nice twist on the genre with Captain Picard like you have never seen him, A-
Saw: Despite the questionable acting, I have always loved the original, A-
The Sadness: Taiwanese zombie movie, lots of gore and a quite a few "am I really seeing this" moments, A-
A Ghost Story: Not really horror and definitely a slow burn, but made an impact on my at the end, A-
I Am Legend: Solid in all the right ways, B+
Midsommar: Takes some time to get going, maybe not for everyone, but I always appreciate unique stories, B+
Bodies, Bodies, Bodies: Enjoyed it a lot, came together nicely at the end, B+
The Ritual: Great atmosphere, goes a bit awry at the end, but solid, B
Escape Room: Fun concept, nice for a change of pace, B
X: Very creepy with some great scenes, B
The Menu: Enjoyed the concept, worth a watch, B
Terrifier 2: More plot than the first one, higher budget, worth a watch if you like extreme gore, B-
Escape Room 2: Decent follow up, nothing groundbreaking but mindless fun, B-
Terrifier: Zero plot, terrible acting, but a creepy killer clown and some of the most disturbing kills for a low budget movie, C+
The Lighthouse: A bit too out there, C+
You're Next: Just didn't work for me, C
We really enjoyed The Nun 2 and felt it exceeded the first one.My 19-year-old daughter was asked to close as a server at Applebee's this weekend and I am one of those dads who just can't sleep when your kids are not home, so I ended up doing a hodgepodge of movies (most I had seen before) on Friday night until 2:30 am.
Train to Busan is a movie I could watch over and over. A
Hannibal is a lot of fun, the Ray Liotta scene makes this movie. B
Totally Killer was also pretty good. My wife and I graduated HS in 1987, so it had a lot of relevant scenes. B-
Last night
We watched The Nun and then Nun 2. I love the Conjuring Universe movies, but the Nun movies just don't connect with me. However, my wife loved this series. I don't find them scary at all and frankly, the interaction between the male lead and the 12-year-old girl in the Nun 2 was really creepy. I give them both a solid C-.
To be clear, I am not going to post specific suggestions for people when I post the list if we think it sounds interesting. I just liked the idea of having categories or a little bit of guidance.Maybe have a criterion of something like "less than X ratings on IMDB" so we get new movies rather than the same list we've been seeing our whole lives.I was going to present options to the group soon while we are in horror mode for opinions on categories and if they should stay or go. I think we could get a good idea on the categories now. What I thought would be wise for next year is repost the categories at the start of Sept. That way people could get an idea of what they might want to watch for those as they look what is on streaming and plan for things. I thought that month could be people throwing around ideas for the categories and where it is streaming, and less debating what the categories are. I hope that makes sense.Found Footage movies - I saw a lot of inventiveness from this subgenre over the month and a lot of my favorite watches were from here. However, I don't think I like this trend of movies like Dashcam and Deadstream where we have 1 lead and the shtick of also seeing the comments on the screen. I get why it's going that direction, but I'm too old for that and hope it doesn't tilt too much in that direction.
I think found footage peaked about 5-10 years ago. I'm a huge fan of the subgenre, but there really are a lot of stinkers out there. It can be hard to find the good stuff and there hasn't been anything worthy of a list in a few years IMO.
Also, I think for next year, we should spend Aug-Sept coming up with a definitive 31 movie for 31 days list, kind of how we did the top 100 70s/80s/90s threads, but with more people. Then the list would be ready for the thread to watch and discuss during October. Is that what you already suggested? I cant remember.
Renfield- 7Fall of the House of Usher (series)- 7.5At the End of Eight 3/10My updated list, now with rankings
Texas Chainsaw (22) 4/10
Horror of Dracula 6/10
REC 10/10
REC 2 7/10
Hell House llc. 10/10
Evil Dead (13). 10/10
The Boy 6/10
The Boogeyman. 7/10
Tales of Halloween. 6.5/10
Haunted Mansion (23). 5/10
Megan 5.5/10
Malevolent. 6/10
Candyman (21). 6/10
The Possession of Hannah Grace 6.5/10
You're Killing Me 3/10
Haunt 9/10
Totally Killer. 6/10
Interesting premise but apparently the budget for this movie was only 5k and it shows.
Cobweb- 7
Hell Fest- 6
Wrong Turn(21)- 5
Probably my least favorite horror genre. I like horror movies that seem like that can't actually be real.I think I’m done with most new found footage. I’m in a FF Facebook group just for new recommendations and everyone was praising one called Project Eerie, so I watched it and it was terrible. Then I found out it had a budget of $700. I mean I guess it was not bad considering that, but I wish I had known it was essentially the equivalent of a college film class project.
You’ve got to see Rosemary’s Baby, you must see Rosemary’s Baby.I've never seen Rosemary's Baby. I need to track that down sometime.
It's breathtakingYou’ve got to see Rosemary’s Baby, you must see Rosemary’s Baby.I've never seen Rosemary's Baby. I need to track that down sometime.
Terrifier - 6Renfield- 7Fall of the House of Usher (series)- 7.5At the End of Eight 3/10My updated list, now with rankings
Texas Chainsaw (22) 4/10
Horror of Dracula 6/10
REC 10/10
REC 2 7/10
Hell House llc. 10/10
Evil Dead (13). 10/10
The Boy 6/10
The Boogeyman. 7/10
Tales of Halloween. 6.5/10
Haunted Mansion (23). 5/10
Megan 5.5/10
Malevolent. 6/10
Candyman (21). 6/10
The Possession of Hannah Grace 6.5/10
You're Killing Me 3/10
Haunt 9/10
Totally Killer. 6/10
Interesting premise but apparently the budget for this movie was only 5k and it shows.
Cobweb- 7
Hell Fest- 6
Wrong Turn(21)- 5
Wow, what a fun movie! Cage as Dracula doing Cage things, over the top cartoon violence and a decent story.
Is this part 2? I see the 3rd one is available but haven't been able to find part 2 anywhereHell House LLC Origins - The Carmichael Manor
Was expecting something a lot worse than what it is. They do a good job of tying it into the original Hell House series. If you’re missing the clowns, don’t worry, they’re back. 3.25/5
I guess this would be 4.Is this part 2? I see the 3rd one is available but haven't been able to find part 2 anywhereHell House LLC Origins - The Carmichael Manor
Was expecting something a lot worse than what it is. They do a good job of tying it into the original Hell House series. If you’re missing the clowns, don’t worry, they’re back. 3.25/5