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RB Dalvin Cook, Free Agent (3 Viewers)
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rockaction
Footballguy
Too much smoke for there not to be a fire with the Jets. They need to be in it all year this year. Ready to go from the jump.
Of course, as a Hall GM in dynasty, I hate it, but it is what it is.
Of course, as a Hall GM in dynasty, I hate it, but it is what it is.
RenegadeRoy
Footballguy
So odd to me that the Jets have seemingly all but forgotten about Michael Carter. Seems like a fine stopgap while Hall heals up... but I guess if you can get Cook ,why not?
jtd13
Footballguy
Does Florio count as smoke? I mean, I usually just assume anything he says is smoke, but not the same kind of smoke.
jtd13
Footballguy
Heck any 2 of Bam Knight, Carter, and Abanikanda seems pretty solid until Hall is back and fully ready. I guess it's just kind of the arms race mentality when in your window though.
Catbird
Footballguy
I think the Jets feel like they have all their franchise eggs in this 1 season basket and don't know when or if they will ever be here again. I think signing Dalvin when they may only need him for a handful of games, if that, and already having Carter, is grasping at straws. Admittedly, though, I am a Cook shareholder and don't like him signing to sit around doing little or nothing as a fantasy asset for his last useful year or two
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
They also have Bam Knight who looked very good and I do like the kid from Pitt. I guess it’s just a case of you can’t have too much talent and the Jets are clearly pushing the chips in.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
That this is all AFC East teams supposedly interested seems like agent shenanagins to me.
IF Aaron Rodgers is trying to get Cook on the roster maybe we can put to bed this talk about him not being good in pass protection that my eyes never agreed with in the first place.
IF Aaron Rodgers is trying to get Cook on the roster maybe we can put to bed this talk about him not being good in pass protection that my eyes never agreed with in the first place.
Dez
Footballguy
Would suck for both Hall and Cook if he signs here
metoo
Footballguy
You shouldn't hate it. Bring Hall back slowly and he'll be ready to go by midseason.
Swap Cook and Hunt and I'd agree. Just think Miami could use more of a receiving RB, especially as insurance if Achane doesn't pan out. Meanwhile NY could use a more balanced RB in case Hall isn't ready for the start of the season.
Keith1
Footballguy
Just remember where you read this first. It is getting closer and closer to happening.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I hope he doesn’t go to the Jets
I do but was not you, someone was posting this stuff on twitter about a week before you posted it here.
Keith1
Footballguy
I don't do Twitter so I can't comment on that. I only know what my buddy (James Cook's accountant) told me last month. At that time no one was saying the Jets.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
I'd be firing my accountant if they were spreading anything but smokescreens.
Dez
Footballguy
I first heard that it was Cook to Buffalo or NYJ back on May 30th. Nick from BDGE had a live draft and said during the draft he would break the Dalvin Cook news from who he had a good source from told him was going to happen. Fast forward to 21 minutes and 30 seconds and he states he was told Cook would go to Buffalo or the NYJ.
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James Cook accountant really gets around.I first heard that it was Cook to Buffalo or NYJ back on May 30th. Nick from BDGE had a live draft and said during the draft he would break the Dalvin Cook news from who he had a good source from told him was going to happen. Fast forward to 21 minutes and 30 seconds and he states he was told Cook would go to Buffalo or the NYJ.
Nick Breaks MAJOR Dalvin Cook News during a Fantasy Football Mock Draft
sign up for Underdog with code 'bdge" for a 100% deposit matchhttps://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-nick-bdgeNick Breaks MAJOR Dalvin Cook News during a Fantasy...
I think Boomer was spreading that report but I can't say I'm buying what he's selling.
Saw Cameron Wolfe on NFLN yesterday morning speculate it was between everyone in the AFC East except Buffalo and that all things being equal he'd prefer Miami. I buy that.
Washington is the one sneaky team IMO that could come out of no where.
Can't wait for him to sign because this is high confusing right now wondering what backfield he's going to disrupt. I think everyone but Achane owners are hoping he goes to Miami but if the NFL draft just taught us one thing it's that we here in fantasy land don't often get what we want.
Dez
Footballguy
Seen it here.
Vikings Have Offer on the Table for 4-Time Pro Bowler: Report
The Vikings have an offer on the table for Dalvin Cook that may be better than what he's seeing from several other suitors.
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
TheWinz
Footballguy
I beg to differ. He's been elected to the Pro Bowl the last 4 years, and the only time he didn't finish top 10 was in 2021, when he missed 4 games after his arm fell off (and he still managed to finish RB16).
Tau837
Footballguy
The last 4 years != 2023. HTH
rockaction
Footballguy
Just to play curious cat, name the ten running backs one is sure are better than Dalvin Cook in the league. I'm not saying it can or can't be done, I'd just like to see it.
rockaction
Footballguy
I'll start, and just go by team
For 2023 and 2023 alone
AFC East
Rhamondre Stevenson - maybe
Breece Hall - health questions so maybe
Jeff Wilson, Devon Achane, Raheem Mostert - nope
James Cook and Damien Harris - nope
AFC North
Najee Harris - maybe
Joe Mixon - probably a big fat nope
Nick Chubb - yes
J.K. Dobbins, Gus Edwards - maybe Dobbins, not sure
AFC South
Dameon Pierce - maybe
Jonathan Taylor - yes, but how's that injury
Travis Etienne - yes
Derrick Henry - yes, sort of old
AFC West
Josh Jacobs - yes
Nobody on KC
Javonte Williams - maybe if healthy
Austin Ekeler - parallel
NFC East
Tony Pollard - yes
Saquon Barkley - yes
Rashaad Penny, D'Andre Swift - if healthy, then probably yes
Brian Robinson, Antonio Gibson - no
NFC South
Alvin Kamara - ?
Miles Sanders - probably not
Bijan Robinson - yes
Rachaad White - not so fast
NFC North
Mattison - no
Jones, Dillon - no
Montgomery, J. Gibbs - no on Monty, ? on Gibbs
Khalil Herbert, D'Onta Foreman - no
NFC West
Kenneth Walker - yes
Christian McCaffrey - yes
Cam Akers - not really
James Conner - not really
I'm counting ten yes points and a whole bunch of maybes.
Just a fun exercise.
For 2023 and 2023 alone
AFC East
Rhamondre Stevenson - maybe
Breece Hall - health questions so maybe
Jeff Wilson, Devon Achane, Raheem Mostert - nope
James Cook and Damien Harris - nope
AFC North
Najee Harris - maybe
Joe Mixon - probably a big fat nope
Nick Chubb - yes
J.K. Dobbins, Gus Edwards - maybe Dobbins, not sure
AFC South
Dameon Pierce - maybe
Jonathan Taylor - yes, but how's that injury
Travis Etienne - yes
Derrick Henry - yes, sort of old
AFC West
Josh Jacobs - yes
Nobody on KC
Javonte Williams - maybe if healthy
Austin Ekeler - parallel
NFC East
Tony Pollard - yes
Saquon Barkley - yes
Rashaad Penny, D'Andre Swift - if healthy, then probably yes
Brian Robinson, Antonio Gibson - no
NFC South
Alvin Kamara - ?
Miles Sanders - probably not
Bijan Robinson - yes
Rachaad White - not so fast
NFC North
Mattison - no
Jones, Dillon - no
Montgomery, J. Gibbs - no on Monty, ? on Gibbs
Khalil Herbert, D'Onta Foreman - no
NFC West
Kenneth Walker - yes
Christian McCaffrey - yes
Cam Akers - not really
James Conner - not really
I'm counting ten yes points and a whole bunch of maybes.
Just a fun exercise.
rockaction
Footballguy
Cook was the second-best RB in a Next Gen stat of explosive rushers from 2021 to only Jonathan Taylor. I think I'm on the Cook train that everybody seems to be off of. I find it hard to believe he lost it in the past year. Maybe he did. But something in me doubts that precipitous of a drop.
TheWinz
Footballguy
I also think he's got something left in the tank. Last year he set career highs in both long run and long reception, and he managed an entire season for the first time. He will become the lead RB wherever he lands.
zamboni
Footballguy
Have to imagine he'll picked up during training camp, if not sooner. And if a starter injury happens early in camp, he'll probably be the first call.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Do you have any idea where the pull those stats from? I went to the NextGen website and see some things, but not those particular and very useful metrics.
How far is "really falling?"
I think once you hit the 7/8 turn, he's worth considering.
The article references a Telemetry Sports as the source for most of the info.
My guess is it's a site like TruMedia which a lot of writers use that is not cost efficient for individual users like us to purchase, if we even have the option-which is kind of annoying to me.
Yes and as Scott Pioli was trying to say this morning his floor is $2m because that's the offset amount of his contract from the Vikings. I think I mentioned this earlier but this is one reason he can take his time, he's not be in a hurry for take say $5m as that's just $3M over what he can get paid to do nothing. From what I've heard from multiple teams beat writers he wants a lot of money, like $9-10M. Eventually he either gets or more likely lowers his demands but he's not in a hurry to just take anything.
Da Franchise
Footballguy
Ah thanks, missed that part, just saw NextGen at the top of the paragraph.
Useful content.
zamboni
Footballguy
No one is going to give him 9-10 million in this market, even if their starter suffers a serious injury, but yes he can indeed wait if he's getting 2 million just to work out on his own.
I think he'll eventually cater when he can at least beat what Miles and Monty got paid and I think he'll get it. So $6M plus.
Been grabbing both Cook and Kamara in Underdog Best Ball drafts in the 7th to 9th rounds. Both should be great value at those spots
cantstop1999
Footballguy
Vikings offered cook 7 million per year and he didn’t take it, wtf, he’s crazy !!!
was also surprised by that, don't see how he gets more than that
zamboni
Footballguy
Some of these RBs and their agents are clearly not reading the tea leaves of today's RB market.
cantstop1999
Footballguy
I think he’s butt hurt that he was cut, it’s business get over it and sign.
Catbird
Footballguy
I think Cook (and Hopkins) know their markets far better than we do and their agents probably speak regularly with the teams. I think the players are just letting teams bid against each other until a few days before training camp, or maybe until some time later than that to get the best offer. If MIN has bid 7 Mil, maybe Miami will bid 7.2. If MIN says their bid is off the table tomorrow, Cook may have to make the harder choice, but no reason to think the 7 Mil isn't still out there. If they'd taken the last bid of 6 Mil or whatever from the Jets or whoever, Cook would never have had the offer of 7. No reason at all not to let the teams keep on bidding. People like us thinking they know what bid these guys should take ... need to realize we only know what little we know - not more than the players and their agents.
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