Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
Unreal. Yeah he's a drop.
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WR Allen Robinson, NYG (6 Viewers)
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fightingillini
Footballguy
Drop city. If he somehow turns it around later, I can live with it. Rather let him rot on someone else's bench.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Not true. Sometimes he throws to Skowronik because he thinks it's Kupp.
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Saint
Footballguy
After watching the game and rewatching sections, I just can't help feeling it's not a Robinson issue. I agree with @Dr. Octopus and @flapgreen where Stafford isn't coming off his initial reads, whether that's because the Oline is horrific or because he just has eyes for Kupp. I hate keeping Robinson on the bench, but I just feel there is potential there.
titusbramble
Footballguy
If you were throwing to a choice of Megatron or whoever the heck Detroit also had in the receiver room at the time, would you do anything different?
Dizzy
Footballguy
I think that Pic-six was a direct result of this. Clearly that is a play that stood out in film study... no guessing by the DB there... they were waiting for the Rams to run that one.
Didn't they hit a stretch like this in 2021 as well? It was Kupp, Kupp, and more Kupp... on pace for 36 TDs, 2,600 yds receiving, 175 receptions. Spread the ball around down the stretch getting OBJ into the mix. Now he (Stafford) needs to be re-trained for some reason.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Heard a quip today from a popular FF show.
We feel bad for drafting Allen Robinson in the 4th? That cost us…nothing. Wasted redraft capital, yes…but this is a hobby. We haven’t played this game past high school, we live in our mom’s basement. Men who do this for a living and are at the pinnacle of their profession paid $46M to get this wrong.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I kept him in my 4-keeper 10-team auction league. Dumping him now while there are still viable alternatives on the wire.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Stafford's favorite song:
The Flamingos - I Only Have Eyes For You - HD SOUND.
The Flamingos - I Only Have Eyes For You 1959. WHY RECORDS CAN SOUND BETTER THAN A CD VERSION. http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm Recorded...
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
Any chance of getting Geoff back?
candian fantasy guy
Footballguy
Do they take the same stance on players they got correct?
habsfan
Footballguy
I wouldn't call it a mistake. Some were more bullish or bearish on Robinson and when you plant your flag at the extreme wrong end of the range of outcomes for him, you obviously need to own that. What is currently happening though is worse than the low end of the range of outcomes I think.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Rough.
Think he'll get dropped quite a bit this week. We've not even seen Van Jefferson yet this season. Possible OBJ resigns/returns late in year.
Looks like a massive blunder giving Woods away for a 6th rounder I believe and then giving Robinson the money they did.
Think he'll get dropped quite a bit this week. We've not even seen Van Jefferson yet this season. Possible OBJ resigns/returns late in year.
Looks like a massive blunder giving Woods away for a 6th rounder I believe and then giving Robinson the money they did.
Capella
Footballguy
I paid attention to a few of his routes the other night and he certainly seemed to be giving it the full go. He wasn’t going through the motions or lounging around, he was giving the corner the head dip as he went into his route and everything. Stafford never even looked his way. Has to be dispiriting.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Yeah, I guess the QB having tunnel vision is something that is "out of his control".
Go back and look at week 1. Nothing has changed. Stafford doesn't even look to A-Rob's side of the field. It really is comical how terrible Stafford zones in on Kupp.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
Hold up, you think Huf was just waiting for that 16th pass to Kupp? LOL
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
At this point only masochists are still holding ARob.
WR74
It's OK to not be OK. If you need help, get help.
Lot of the Rams offensive issues seem to be tied to the poor OL play. They've had a hard time between retirement and injuries. C Coleman Shelton had a high ankle sprain Monday, he's out 4-6 weeks. Starting C Brian Allen has been out with a knee, he might come back Sunday v Dallas. G David Edwards is in the concussion protocol. Top draft pick G Logan Bruss tore his ACL in preseason. Another backup OL is on IR. Whitworth's replacement has been replacement level average.
WR74
It's OK to not be OK. If you need help, get help.
Lot of the Rams offensive issues seem to be tied to the poor OL play. They've had a hard time between retirement and injuries. C Coleman Shelton had a high ankle sprain Monday, he's out 4-6 weeks. Starting C Brian Allen has been out with a knee, he might come back Sunday v Dallas. G David Edwards is in the concussion protocol. Top draft pick G Logan Bruss tore his ACL in preseason. Another backup OL is on IR. Whitworth's replacement has been replacement level average.
I honestly don't understand why defenses don't put two guys on Kupp at all times. Yeah, I know Kupp is damn good, but there is no D out there FORCING Stafford to look elsewhere.
fightingillini
Footballguy
Most teams are likely doubling him, or having a DB one-on-one with safety help over the top. Thing is....Kupp, along with Adams are the two best route runners in the league. Defenses are perfectly fine with Kupp getting 14 catches for less than 10 yards a catch. Make LA dink and dunk and stop it when closer to the goalline. And it's been successful. LA didn't score a TD against SF Monday night.
He's still getting down the field plenty though.
I hear what you're saying, but I'd bet a Bill B. type would FORCE Stafford to immediately look away from Kupp and go elsewhere. His happy feet would get even happier.
I mean, right now, that offense is 99% Kupp. Healthy for Kupp production, unhealthy for the offense as a whole.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
McVay’s locker room conversation with Robinson.
Good Will Hunting - It's Not Your Fault
Because more people need to realise this about themselves in so many different situations where they've been made to believe it is their fault - Movie "Good ...
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foxco
Footballguy
I'm in the masochists club unfortunately, just not much on the WW and I do think there's a chance, however slim, that things turn around.
"So you're saying there's a chance!"
Shrek
Having a great season
I really, really want to believe this. But the problem is that the Rams have already been in a variety of game scenarios (2 blowout losses, 1 close win, 1 comfortable win), and ARob's target share has been 2, 5, 5, and 6. At no point does the game script seem to persuade Stafford to throw LESS to Kupp. I am usually the one that stubbornly holds out, but not this time. If he blows up for someone else, more power to them. I'm just not going to stress about putting him in my lineup anymore to get 2 points.
Pickens is on mine (guy just dropped him and I am rushing to pick him up and will be dropping A-Rob)
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
exactly. In a league where everyone is basically on a team there is the kid Shakir in Buff. and maybe Breida as a hedge vs Saquon. Not much else out there (MO ALLIE!!!!!). Holding for one more week and seeing if anything changes makes sense vs. those two picks.
Dizzy
Footballguy
There it is... the dreaded "P" word. Often used to explain away the holding onto of highly-drafted rookies that never blossom, or former studs that turn into duds (seemingly) overnight.
Capella
Footballguy
Sure but my waiver wire has the likes Scotty Miller on it. Somebody above said Pickens - I’d make a beeline for that but I imagine that’s an outlier.
Dizzy
Footballguy
Allan Robinson is dangerously close to entering the Josh Gordon zone. Projections, speculation for great success are based on past success. Dude's in his 9th season, and yes - he has been brilliant in the past. The reality though is that 4-catches in a game is his highwater mark going back to week 2 of last year. People will always find a way to explain it away on poor QB play... meanwhile, time marches on and we keep waiting for that next offensive explosion. Maybe it will happen, but he looks like a complete non-factor at the moment.
zoonation
Footballguy
Pacheco in one and Isaiah McKenzie in the other.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
In my 10-teamer, I dropped him for Corey Davis, who actually appears to be part of his team’s offense.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
I'm in a league that has five copies of ARob circulating. I was hoping this thread would be a reflection of reality in that league but no one dropped him. Of course Pickens and Mckenzie had all five copies drafted and Mckenzie has been started 3 or 20 possible starts.
Stafford is 6th in the league in completions. I think I'll throw out some trade offers for Robinson. If Kupp gets dinged he could be huge.
:deadbevo:
Footballguy
He is hitting the bench, but I am still confident he will become a contributir this season.
candian fantasy guy
Footballguy
May I ask why you think that?
I decided to hang on to him in my one league that I have him. The reason I decided to keep him is not because I think he will start getting more attention, but because the bye weeks are around the corner. Although I may still drop him on the Sunday WW run. Still debating.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I think the better and less expensive play may be grabbing Van Jefferson. At least him and Stafford had some connection at times last year.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
I think I’m dropping him for Pacheco.
I have Hopkins coming back and already own another WR who’s hard to start and hard to drop (Moore)… so I’d rather have the upside.
I’m sure he’ll become a contributor after I drop him.
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Doesn’t matter. Let this be a sabotage drop for someone else. Let them waste a bench spot so they’re forced with making the decision to bench or cut.
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Footballguy
5 games in. Whole offense seems out of sync so Stafford just looking for Kupp.
I expect them to figure it out. It looks to me that Stafford doesn't have time to go through a progression... if Oline can give him a half second more I think this offense jumps forward.
Deamon
Footballguy
LOCKED.Good luck, homie, this will certainly add some thrill to this argument. Hopefully Van actually plays next week or else I've spotted you a free game.
I'm easy to find, the website that image is hosted is run by me, so you can always come pounding on my door there.
Otherwise, I'll send you a PM with my personal Facebook page so you can hunt me down there and harass my family if I welch on you, lbs.
Well looks like I fell for the Eminence trap. He made the bet with me, even made a group PM with a few of you in it in order to make it official, sent me his Facebook info, etc.....
And then when Jefferson went on IR, he stopped responding to my messages and looks like he's either blocked me or disabled his profile because it says error when I click on him.
Unreal that there's people like this out there.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’m not sure why they always let him back and/or stay once he’s discovered. It’s always so obvious when it’s him again.
LOCKED.
Otherwise, I'll send you a PM with my personal Facebook page so you can hunt me down there and harass my family if I welch on you, lbs.
Well looks like I fell for the Eminence trap. He made the bet with me, even made a group PM with a few of you in it in order to make it official, sent me his Facebook info, etc.....
And then when Jefferson went on IR, he stopped responding to my messages and looks like he's either blocked me or disabled his profile because it says error when I click on him.
Unreal that there's people like this out there.
