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I’m sure the absolute numbers are small, but this is a good summary of the impact of concealed carry laws. This subtopic describes the impact on violent crime.Football Jones said:
It's crystal clear by now what the impact of CC is. It gives you autonomy over some bad situations. Many examples. On the other hand, nobody is twisting your arm to carry.
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Gotcha so we are too lazy to solve the problem with 0.1% of the population without impacting the 99.9%?
Jesus Tim... I addressed this one page ago when it was brought Up by Hulk. Cmon man
For TimUhhhhh love ya GB but some bad info here:
No model has a built in (integral) suppressor.
Sig MCX line come with an "inert training device" that looks and weighs like a suppressor (for training purposes)... but a suppressor is sold separately and is affixed to the end of the rifle (in the place of the inert training device) like any AR-15.
Velocity is not double the velocity... it's actually LOWER
M193 (5.56 AR-15 round) : 3250fps
M855A1 (5.56 AR-15 round) : 3100fps
M855 Green Tip (5.56 AR-15 round) : 3050fps
.277 Fury (Spear's Round) : 2970fps (16" barrel)
What makes the .277 Fury round more effective is kinetic energy due to its mass (140gr vs 55gr weight). That said it's not delivering hits beyond anything that isn't already available:
Kinetic Energy at 100yd:
.300 Win Mag: 2947 ft/lb
.277 Fury: 2529 ft/lb
.308 Winchester: 2356 ft/lb
Regarding the range, yes it delivers lethal kinetic energy at greater range than 5.56 (due to mass), it's still in the range of other common cartridges mentioned above. Not to mention I'd wager 0.0% of gun crime is committed at ranges where this is relevant.
Good graphic showing bullet drop at range here. You'll see the comparative accuracy at range is negligible inside 600 yards.
Finally, the gap between civilian and military issued versions of the MCX Spear platform is actually GREATER than that between M4 and Civilian AR-15 platforms. The MIL edition Spear is not only select fire, but also fires at a higher chamber pressure.
Bottom line: I have zero issue with the .277 Sig Fury cartridge or any rifle that chambers it.
Your tax dollars at work!also read this one
North Carolina school district puts AR-15 rifles in schools
A North Carolina sheriff's office has placed locked-up AR-15 rifles on a school district's six campuses as an added security measure for the coming school year.www.foxnews.com
that school is very well defended
Yep. Law abiding citizens.Gotcha so we are too lazy to solve the problem with 0.1% of the population without impacting the 99.9%?
Well then... Even more Thankfully, the courts are seemingly locked into a 2A expansionist pattern, so I'm cautiously optimistic no significant restrictions are coming down.
And Thankfully even if they do, most states / LEO will refuse to enforce and most gun owners will refuse to comply.
Who exactly do you think wrote the Constitution?Adams rejects gun permit plea from NYC bishop robbed of $1M in jewels mid-sermon
New York City Mayor Eric Adams said “no” to a question about if he would consider special gun permits for clergy after Brooklyn Bishop Lamor Miller-Whitehead was robbed of $1 million.
I read this the other day .... see, this is the problem with allowing Govt to issue Constitutional Rights ... they can deny anyone for any reason, even people who are religious leaders and recently robbed .....
Yep. Law abiding citizens.Gotcha so we are too lazy to solve the problem with 0.1% of the population without impacting the 99.9%?
Well then... Even more Thankfully, the courts are seemingly locked into a 2A expansionist pattern, so I'm cautiously optimistic no significant restrictions are coming down.
And Thankfully even if they do, most states / LEO will refuse to enforce and most gun owners will refuse to comply.
Both of you have points.Yep. Law abiding citizens.Gotcha so we are too lazy to solve the problem with 0.1% of the population without impacting the 99.9%?
Well then... Even more Thankfully, the courts are seemingly locked into a 2A expansionist pattern, so I'm cautiously optimistic no significant restrictions are coming down.
And Thankfully even if they do, most states / LEO will refuse to enforce and most gun owners will refuse to comply.
I bet some of those guys drive over the speed limit and occasionally smoke the devil's lettuce too!!!!1!!
#clutchespearls
Who exactly do you think wrote the Constitution?
The government politicians wrote the Constitution but somehow you have a problem with the government providing Constitutional Rights....makes zero sense. If not for them, you wouldn't have these rights you are clinging to
I don't either, but they were, for certain, our first government
I don't either, but they were, for certain, our first government
It's vastly different from what we had 40 years ago....just compare the actions of the Nixon years vs those of the Trump years. Electorate is different too.I don't either, but they were, for certain, our first government
sure ... however what Govt was then and what it is now ? Vastly different methinks
Of course you can't ban voting age adults from owning and carrying arms. It's right there in the Constitution... "shall not be infringed"
And they will do nothing to stop crime
Do you have a factual basis for this statement? Statistics show that violent crime rises in each jurisdiction where permitless concealed carry has been adopted. Additional controls for concealed carry would seem to be a reasonable step at addressing this problem. These laws are a direct response to a poor decision by the Supreme Court and judicial advocacy by its conservative members in striking down a law that was over 100 years old, and preventing unfettered concealed carry from increasing crime, as it has everywhere it has been adopted.
California adopted one in July. It will take a while for the lawsuits to work their way through the courts.
Desperate regimes try to disarm the populace
It's clearly step 2. Identify the enemy first. Now that we have that, we know this thread is going to see the increase next.
I remember when right wing fanatics claimed Obama was doing this in 2009. Generally these runs are caused by the gun industry itself and the NRA with their ridiculous "they're coming to take your guns" rhetoric.
Obama took my guns.
They don't have to do that anymore? The NRA literally published a guide on it.
I have a part time gig as a firearms instructor/RSO. The place we work out of has had such an increase in demand for a weekend shooting/safety course that we're expanding to a second location. Its a great course where we get to meet people from all walks of life who want the training for all sorts of reasons. This country isn't as divided as the internet makes it feel sometimes. Every political background is there to learn self-protection.
Are you referring to the codes provided specific businesses to identify what type of business it is?
I'd like to know what else they are tracking in this manner.
Well, first, I'd like to know if he's talking about the codes the ISO was implementing before I went any further. If that's true, it's an international group and the codes would be worldwide. They would not be "government tracking". And the code would simply signify a purchase from a gun store. The details of the purchase wouldn't be part of it. IF this is what he's referring to, the answer to your question in bold is millions and millions of items. Almost every type of business that takes credit cards has a code like this. Right now, gun stores use the "Misc" code. This would change to signal it was a gun store basically pulling them out from the "Misc" category.
Probably the same one for visiting another type of doctor.
I would consider gun purchases a form of health care too.
No idea....probably the same as other medical businesses? Why do you ask?
